Tell me what you really think

Posted by S. Dawn Casey on May 31, 2008 |

Protesters at the DNC Rules & Bylaws Committee express their dissatisfaction at the decision made concerning Florida and Michigan’s votes and delegate allocation. *note- contains the word “Goddamn”* (2:14)

May 31, 2008

9 Responses to “Tell me what you really think”

  1. Richard F. Miller Says:

    Dawn: Good job! There’s more action here than in Afghanistan!

    Richard F. Miller

  2. Doug Quance Says:

    That was great!

    We won’t see that on the nightly news! Well… not all of it, anyway!

  3. maria Says:

    you rather have the iraq war continue by voting for mccain, because hillary didn’t get her way after breaking the rules, grow up lady! read your bible, during the last days, the humble wll be exsulted! and the proud will be humbled.

  4. Jen Says:

    I’m voting for McCain too. I refuse to have a candidate shoved down my throat after losing the popular vote and winning the bulk of his delegates in undemocratic caucuses. It’s obvious party elders pre-selected him and twisted the rules to crown him, despite Hillary’s massive wins. Democrats have wrecked democracy.

  5. voter with full rights Says:

    FL Decision

    An amendment proposed in both houses of the FL state legislature to move the day of the FL primary to comply with the primary schedule was defeated by Republican dominated houses. The Democrats could not get the primary moved to an approved date. The Democratic voters are penalized. This makes no sense. An appeal to the Credentials Committee should be valid based on the fact that the Democrats tried to get the date changed and were outvoted by Republicans. How can a Republican decision be used to penalize Democratic voters? Oh wait – that has happened before in FL.

    Osmond’s petition and his explanation clearly showed that the super delegates should have full voting rights according to the DNC’s rules. I would definitely appeal that to the Credentials Committee.

    Florida’s delegates should be seated with full voting rights. Voting rights are one of the fundamental rights of a member of a deliberative assembly.

    Wexler – now there was a guy that did not want to answer the hard questions directly. I have news for the Rules Committee – your job is not to appease the candidates. It is to ensure the fair accounting and representation of the voters in each state.

    MI Decision

    Brewer’s compromise solution was and still is a farce. Since when are exit polls and ‘we going to make up our own rule about how to deal with write-ins’ used to determine delegates?

    Brewer’s arguments do not hold any validity. If they were valid they would be valid if the MI primary was held on an acceptable date. Can you imagine the uproar that would occur if the DNC went back to all of the primaries and applied Brewer-ism rules to the results? “I’m sorry – our exit polls show that your vote really went toward another candidate.” A voter would slap the DNC across the face and say “The hell it did. I voted and that vote goes toward my candidate.”

    The only sensible solution to MI would be to give Clinton the delegates she won and place the other delegates as the ‘uncommitted’ type. The voters of MI do realize that some candidates removed their names only to make themselves ‘look better’ in the eyes of IA and NH voters. Voters know when politicians ‘curry favor’.

    DNC Rules Committee

    I am greatly disappointed with most of what I saw on May 31, 2008.

    The committee should have realized that Democratic unity would best be achieved by counting everyone’s vote equally – not this middle of the road compromise. It would be better to give full voting power to delegates from FL and MI and then if one candidate wins or loses – no one can complain about it. No – instead the committee takes delegates from one candidate and gives them to another candidate. What a tainted victory that would be. It would be equivalent to giving pitchers 4 strikes per out when everyone else has 3 strikes per out.

    By far and away, the most disappointing actions by the committee were the motions entertained. First off, you should have been proposing a motion to amend or rescind something previously adopted. Secondly, the FL motions were essentially the same motion at the same meeting. This too is against RONR.

    The most amateurish conduct by the chairs was when each of them ‘called for abstentions’. Abstaining means not to vote. You do not vote ‘abstention. When I saw that I thought your parliamentarian was an idiot. But at least he did make the chair call for no votes.

    As far as the unruly crowd went, the chair can demand for the removal of non-members that are disturbing the meeting. This was not done. The non-members have no right to interfere with the conduct of business.

  6. Andrew Tirado Says:

    To Whom It May Concern:

    There is a real problem going on here that happens to make apparent the flaws & failures of the election system of the United States. Back in 2000, George W. Bush’s campaign was able to manipulate election results in order to fit their agenda, and now, once again here we are dealing with the same sort of infighting. Does the majority of this nation have some sort of mental blockage that prevents it from learning from past blunders?
    As far as the delagate situation in Florida & Michigan goes, the resolving of the issue that was arrived at yesterday is totally ignoring the actual problem. Yes, record numbers of voters cast ballots in the two states even though they were told their votes wouldn’t count, but that doesn’t really matter. The real issue at hand is that neither candidate even campaigned within either state so the voters weren’t even able to make an accurate judgement call. In order to make an accurate vote, a person needs to have access to the information required to make an objective decision. Name recognition alone is not enough of a reason for someone to legitatimately win an election.
    As far as the name recognition goes there is a reputation that is undeserved by one candidate who is trying to remain fully associated with it, and thats pretty opportunistic and unfair. Have we lost sense of what democracy means or have we just become too lazy to even make enough of an effort to right wrongs?

    Sincerely,
    A. Tirado

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  8. DemocratNoMore Says:

    I have been a faithful Democrat since I graduated high school 25 years ago. But NO MORE DEMOCRAT!.
    I refuse to allow the special interest, big money shove a candidate down our throats. BHO is not the chosen golden child. He has insufficient experience.
    I hate to go this route but at this time I will vote for McCain in 08

  9. Ed Lindsay Says:

    The last thing this country needs is four more years of a Republican administration. The GOP has left us with an unresolved war in Iraq, Osama bin Laden still on the loose, over $9 trillion in debt, a favored trade status with Communist China that sends us poisoned dog & cat food, tooth paste with anti-freeze, medicine that kills & unsafe toys, 47 million Americans with no health care, 20 million illegal aliens in this country while our Border Patrol agents are proscuted for doing their jobs, more hatred toward Americans than ever before in our history, a poisoned environment with unsafe air & water, highest paid executives with obscene salaries, a vanishing middle class, outsourcing of our jobs, selling off of our natural forests, and a president issuing directives to federal agencies to ignore our Laws of the Land.

    Only a fool would want four years of this!


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